Mr Kingston replied: "With the reducing budget what we have got to try and do is to protect the frontline, join up some of the back office services and utilise the community more.
"Faced with 20 per cent cuts over the next four years, the more we can join up services and deal with the causes of crime, that is going to be a way forward.
"Continuing to reduce crime with a lower budget is a difficult trick to pull off.
"This can lead to more special constables, increasing the number of volunteers to free up community support offices (PCSOs) to provide greater presence.
"Can we look at patrol strategy – do we always need to patrol in pairs? "There are ways and means to improve visibility.
"We need to attract more special constables and once they are in, we need to retain and benefit them.
"We need to improve the strategy around volunteers and utilise their skills in a better way, all who bring different skills, be it public order, patrols.
"We need to identify their skills and use them to the best of their abilities. It is about having people in the right place, at the right time at the right cost. "We have around 320-350 specials but we need a greater incentive to how they can progress to the regular service."
Attracting more PCSOs and special constables to the force is one key aim of Mr Grove.
The powers of PCSOs were hotly discussed during the meeting, with agreement that the visibility of an uniformed officer provided comfort and safety to many residents.
"The powers of a PCSO are left to the discretion of the chief constable," he said.
"There are certain powers here that PCSOs don't have. Can we extend the powers of PCSOs without putting them at risk or in difficult situations. "They don't have the same protective equipment. They don't have the power to stop and search, do we want to extend that power?
"If crime happens, we need to do everything we can to try and solve that.
"Catching criminals is critical."
Consultation on Mr Grove's police and crime panel will last until the end of the month.
Prior to being published, the plan will have to be put before the police and crime panel who will give its own observations.
Mr Kingston said: "The commissioner is responsible to write the plan but to consult with the chief constable.
"Matthew believes it is about keeping a personal distance but being as one with what they want to deliver.
"The plan is what he wants to deliver to the people of Humberside and the majority will go to the force to be the prime deliverers of that ambition.
Vehicles used in manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance
13 Mar 2013
|I had one where I was called to deal with a kid on a moped, on arrival he was riding up a footpath. When he saw me he tried to shoot off and managed to ride it into a hedge. I walked up to him and helped him pull it out of the hedge.
I checked the bike on PNC, no insurance, no tax, no MOT former keeper details only. I then checked him on PNC and he had been given a section 59 a few months earlier.
I then called for a colleague, but there were no Police officers available to deal with the no insurance so as I had seen him riding on the footpath I seized it under section 59.
Can I make a citizen's arrest?
Example Case: illustrating using of "CITIZEN ARREST POWERS" by PCSO in plain clothes and on duty:
11 Apr 2013
A situation where I have had to get hands on was with a shop lifter, At the time I had a civilian top on so the person did not know who I was. I saw them put to bottles of wine down their trousers and walk towards the door. Obviously I went to stop “The Offender” verbally and confronted them, got some of the best English language back I may add. “The Offender” then ran off with the wine throwing a bottle at me and eventually threatening me with a syringe. That’s when I felt the public was in the most danger so went out of my way to stop “The Offender” the best I could with what I had (which was nothing). unit arrive and they were nicked and charged with theft and assault police.
I had no vest and only my radio on me
Arrests can be made by people other than the police but should be approached with caution as legally it is a tricky area and potentially dangerous. The police do not actively encourage people to make citizen's arrests and the circumstances of the arrest can be examined in detail if the case goes to court. There is more legal information concerning citizen's arrests on a website called K-Zone set up by a final-year law student.
The right to make a citizen's arrest comes under section 3(1) of the Criminal Law Act 1967 which says:
"A person may use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances in the prevention of crime, or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders or of persons unlawfully at large."
The crime must be an 'indictable offence', i.e. a serious offence which could be tried in a crown court.
Another way to think of indictable offences is as crimes that can result in long prison sentences.
Examples of indictable offences are theft, burglary, murder, robbery, malicious wounding, dangerous driving and criminal damage. So, drink-driving would not qualify as it is an offence which would be tried in a magistrates court and only result in a maximum sentence of six months.
If you have made an arrest using 'reasonable force' but the arrest is later judged to be unlawful then criminal charges can be brought against you. If you seriously injure the person being arrested then they can bring criminal charges against you regardless of the outcome of the arrest.
As soon as you have made an arrest you must alert the police. Then you must either hand the arrested person over to a policeman in the street or take them to a police station as soon as possible.
However, the most important thing to consider when deciding whether to make a citizen's arrest is your own safety. If you are in any doubt then you should not put yourself at risk. READ MORE ON CITIZEN ARREST
Q Can a PCSO use Citizen's powers of arrest to make an arrest?
A A PCSO is as much a citizen as anyone else, so it follows that a PCSO has as much right to consider a citizen's arrest as anybody else does
Example Case: illustrating using of "CITIZEN ARREST POWERS" by PCSO in uniform and on duty:
PI & GI
22 Feb 2013
|I was on a day shift once and i was on patrol in an estate in Milk and beans notorious for nominals. I called it the mistakes estate lol
I was approcahed by a woman as I was on patrol by the shops and she told me her handbag had just been snatched from the post office counter that she worked in gave me a good description of the male.I radioed in and was informed that a unit would be with me in about 15 minutes or more as they were tied up at another job, low and behold this drugged up confused scumbag came wandering along towards me and he fitted the description and he had the bag in his hand. I risk assesed it and decided to approch the male , he sat on a bench near a mum and a young baby spouting out rubbish and behaving intimidating. I went up to the male and told him to stay where he was as he was under citizens arrest. He was so out of it, he just sat there and I did not need to put hands on! shift arrived and took him away! if he decided to run though ...well he would be on the floor. I returned the bag to the woman and she was very greatful!
Finally, there is a Home Office Circular dated 2007, that is worth reading, it also links to the Standard List of PCSO Powers